DSMers are polluting the planet.

[Goat Blower]

Global warming = Hoax.
Caused by humans = No
Disproportionate US contribution = N/A
Caused by DSM's = N/A

I corrected your statements to actually have some relevance.

I thought this crap was over, people still believe this stuff?

[xveganxcowboyx]

Plus with all of the DSMs running E85 they are actually better for the enviornment then most cars.


I've never bought the E-85 being better for the environment deal. Good for power and engines, but not necessarily the environment. It could be though. Just not as it's currently produced.


When it comes to being caused by humans, if the great majority of scientists in the field, the ones who study the issue in depth, say it's caused by humans, I'm going to go ahead and believe them. Hell, even the Bush administration has come around on this one.

[tpunx99GSX]

Hell, even the Bush administration has come around on this one.

Well looks like Global warming is a myth. being that bush is usually wrong.

[xveganxcowboyx]

lol.

[scheides]

http://www.bandyhumor.com/Handler.ashx?PhotoID=373&Size=L

[AwdGSX13]

E-85 is no better, it takes 11 acres of corn to produce enough fuel for one car a year. (numbers may be a little off). Global Warming is real. Hopefully these rising gas prices will slow some of these fuckers down!

[95talonracer]

global warming is not fucking real, it is a bunch of BS! If global warming is so real then why the hell did we have such a cool winter this begining of the year and why is it so dam cool right now in june? WRONG! It is all a joke for people to make money off of. Oh and by the way E85 kicks azz!

[1QUICK4]

The highest level of Carbon emissions actually comes from concrete during the curing stage.

Maybe we should all go back to mud houses, dirt roads and horse n buggies.

Hell, growing the corn for Ethanol causes more carbon emmisions than your car burning petrol.

[Goat Blower]

E85 is actually horrible for the environment when you factor in what it takes to produce it, but let the environmentalists tout it as the savior of the world, it's just cheap race gas to me.

And for a majority of scientists being on board with global warming, that's all changed. There was just some new thing signed by 33,000 scientists and climatologists saying GW is a hoax. The tide is turning quickly, why do you think Gore is putting $300M into a campaign to keep people believing in it? To get $1B+ in revenues from carbon credits from a bunch of suckers. Money makes the world go round, read between the lines on this stuff and you'll see it.

[merkzu]

The Oregon Petition is the name commonly given to a petition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petition) opposed to the Kyoto protocol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_protocol), organized by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine) (OISM) between 1999 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999) and 2001 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001). During this period the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) was negotiating with other countries on implementation of the protocol before the Bush administration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush) withdrew from the process in 2001.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_petition#cite_note-0) Former U.S. National Academy of Sciences (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Academy_of_Sciences) President Frederick Seitz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Seitz) wrote a cover letter endorsing the petition.
The Oregon Petition was the fourth, and by the far the largest, of five prominent efforts to show that a scientific consensus does not exist on the subject of anthropogenic global warming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming), following the 1992 Statement by Atmospheric Scientists on Greenhouse Warming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy#Petitions), the Heidelberg Declaration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy#Petitions) and the Leipzig Declaration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leipzig_Declaration). The petition site currently lists more than 31,000 signatories.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_petition#cite_note-explanation-1)
The petition was circulated again in October 2007.



The text of the petition (which was on a reply card) reads, in its entirety:[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_petition#cite_note-petition-2)
“ We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind. There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.