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95talonracer
03-20-2008, 12:45 AM
I have a 2.0 with commetic MLS and standard ARP's. At the end of last year I was pushing coolant bad so now comes my decision. I have been reading around and can't make up my mind. I just received my SCS Titan copper head gasket but now dont know if that was the right thing to order. Here are the options I am thinking.

1-Keep and use the new scs tital copper gasket with reusing my standard ARP's

2-Keep and use the new scs tital copper gasket with buying a set of L19 ARP's

3-Returning the scs titan, ringing the head and use a commetic mls with my standard ARP's

4-Exchange the scs titan for the correct one to use with a ringed head, ringing the head and using my arp's

5-Exchange the scs titan for the correct one to use with a ringed head, ringing the head and buy L19 arp's

What would be the best idea?
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niterydr
03-20-2008, 01:00 AM
How much boost and power?
DSM_421
03-20-2008, 01:32 AM
I know you can, and people do, but I wouldn't reuse your arps... just upgrade them. Correct me if I'm wrong but your shooting for over 450awhp... right?
JET
03-20-2008, 09:58 AM
Scrap that gasket for sure. See if you can get a refund on it. I would get your head resurfaced first, then go with a decent gasket. I am still running a stock one, as are quite a few of the higher HP cars. Felpro is the hot ticket lately or a Mitsu MLS would work fine for you also. You should be fine with the regular ARP's. How much HP are you gunning for?
95talonracer
03-20-2008, 10:49 AM
Well I am doing e85, scm61, 1600 injectors, and dsmlink with a built 2.0 so whatever I can get out of it. Other supporting mods as well.

On my 20g I was running 30psi with no knock and it ran good for a bit on that but then started pushing coolant. I take it with the bigger turbo I will make the same power with a bit less boost as my 20g am i right?
JET
03-20-2008, 11:29 AM
Yes, you will probably make the same power on 27-28psi. I had basically the same setup, but with a 2.4l on a stock head gasket, so it had even less sealing surface. I ran 32psi on it without a problem. Think of the head gasket as a fuse though, you might have been knocking and it saved your engine. Making sure the head and block are flat is pretty key. You have to take the head off, so at least get that one resurfaced. The blocks are usually pretty good.
95talonracer
03-20-2008, 11:56 AM
Any good places to get resurfacing done for a reasonible price? What did you put down for power on that setup?
JET
03-20-2008, 12:58 PM
I put down 460 awhp at DB. Most places can resurface just fine, it is pretty easy. Make sure they put a decent finish on it if you want to go MLS.
95talonracer
03-20-2008, 01:35 PM
Who has had resurfacing done and had good luck with a particular shop? Looking for a shop that will do it for a good price and is well known for great work. Also anyone have prices on cutting the head for o rings?
niterydr
03-20-2008, 01:40 PM
Who has had resurfacing done and had good luck with a particular shop? Looking for a shop that will do it for a good price and is well known for great work. Also anyone have prices on cutting the head for o rings?

Head surface RA varies per gasket used and material used. Which gasket style are you going with?