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Shane@DBPerformance
02-19-2008, 11:04 PM
Most cars don't have rods nearly as strong as the ones found in DSMs, so even if there were some, there is a good chance that they wouldn't be worth using anyways.
EGT don't tell you that much. They are effected the most by ignition timing. High timing = low EGTs, low timing = high EGTs. They don't tell you if the car is detonating or going to blow up. You should see over 1400f though even under perfectly normal conditions. Was the sensor probe after the turbo or bad?
Super Bleeder!!
02-20-2008, 02:39 AM
Just use the 1g rods and stack like 15 headgaskets on top of each other to make up for the protruding piston.
Im only suggesting this because i think you may actually think this is a viable option. haw haw
crazy_skier
02-20-2008, 11:26 AM
well along with superbleeders idea, if you were going to actually do something like that just get a piece of metal machined like a h/g and then run a thin head gasket on each side of it.... so you would have a metal spacer. Now don't get mad at me if it blows up the first time you boost her :D
I actually wonder if that could work???
after a few moments of thinking, you would need the metal "gasket" to be 100% flush with the cylinders in every way.... so that would be the weak point maybe????
Shane@DBPerformance
02-20-2008, 11:53 AM
It's called a deck plate. It's been done in all-motor Honda applications to get a bigger stroker motor, but still retain a long rod and good rod ratio for high reving.
iceminion
02-20-2008, 11:57 AM
ok, listen up, you can go fast as shit on a 2.0.
Sell that 2.4, people who plan on doing a $3000 engine build will budget for an expensive crank.
take the money and buy a set of rings and hone out your stock block.
adding .4L of displacement wont do shit to your car, chances you are going to be running a 14b on a 1g manifold with a 1g mas....not worth the effort.
I did an ebay rebuild kit with .20 over pistons.....after having the block bored and decked all said and done the total rebuild cost less then $500.
Here is a good recipe for a fast 2.0 DSM.
stock ecu
550cc injectors
2g mas, 2g manifold
open downpipe
v-trim turbo
big cams (272)
thats what I have in my garage, and its fast as shit! going through tires like you wouldnt believe, 4wd burnouts FTW!
to be honest, I would have rather stayed 2.0 on my other DSM(GVR) (i have a 2.3) and used the money elsewhere on my car!
Goat Blower
02-20-2008, 03:00 PM
adding .4L of displacement wont do shit to your car, chances you are going to be running a 14b on a 1g manifold with a 1g mas....not worth the effort.
Adding 20% more displacement won't do anything? You've obviously never driven a 2.4 car then. Night and day difference with anything larger than a 16G.
Halon
02-20-2008, 03:31 PM
Buildling a 2.3 shouldn't cost all that much more than a 2.0. You don't need different rods, you still use the everyday off the shelf rods you'd use in a 2.0 build. What you need is the stroker pistons, which typically are the same price as the 2.0. They just raise the wrist pin location on the piston. The only real added cost is the 2.4 crank you have to purchase (which it sounds like you already have one), and possibly some material removal on the inside of the block.
Link to pistons that you could use. http://www.maperformance.com/store/home.php?cat=1437
You'll see the stroker pistons and the standard 2.0 pistons are the same price. Looks like Wiseco and Ross also makes some for the same price as their off the shelf 2.0 ones.
I was considering a 2.3 build awhile back, but got scared off a bit when I was finding out that the 2.4 cranks weren't all created equal. Some people found there's were hardened, and others found theirs weren't. When I found a company that sold used cranks, they said they could not verify whether or not they were hardened, so I ended up just staying 2.0.
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