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Halon
03-19-2008, 07:59 PM
Best of luck with it.
Andrew7dg
04-26-2008, 09:21 AM
now that good weather has arrived I have made some progress on this setup (that and the fact my stock ECU is giving me problems is speeding up this project)
So I purchased some things that are going to be helpful
one is a zeitronix wideband that will be installed into the car pretty soon I hope. This will be used for the MS. I am keeping the Narrowband in place for the stock computer right now. I am going to be running them parallel for a little bit. I am thinking I might even start the MS system just running fuel and the stock computer running spark for right now just to see how that works out.
The other toys that I have is the fuel injectors FIC 1150. Reason I started this whole project is because I needed more fuel
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/Andrew7dg/DSCN1917-1.jpg
Here is something I built that I think is really helpful. I didn't want to hack into the stock wiring harness. When I went to U pull I found a 1.8 ECU that the stock clips can plug into. Also in the yard was a 90 laser and I hacked off the plugs off of the wiring harness. Put the two together and you have a wire harness extension!
I thought this would be really useful for tapping all of the lines you need and still not have to tap into the stock lines. In case this doesn't work I wanted to be able to plug into the original harness
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/Andrew7dg/DSCN1910-1.jpg
Also what is helpful about this is that you are not in the car when splicing into the original harness. I don't have enough room in the car to splice and solder stuff. I can splice and solder connections in my own house before putting it in there. I love this thing!!!! plus now I can label what goes to where. I have tested this and it works. My stock ecu sits on the passenger floor board. Another thing is that if I even have to convert my car to 91 harness, flipping the two wires will be easy!
DSM_421
04-26-2008, 11:22 PM
Can't wait to re-read this thread when I am sober.
You sound like a very smart man, and I hope the best of luck with this system!
Supa_dupa_man
04-27-2008, 01:57 AM
Wow, just fucking WOW! Jungy, Im gonna be needing some help when I decide to install my MSII. Im hopefully gonna get that bitch in as soon as I get a new turbo manifold...
Andrew7dg
06-12-2008, 10:03 PM
Just to keep updated on this project,
I got it to run on the MSII system!
It took a while but now I believe it is going to pay off.
I also got it to run on the 1150cc FIC with no prob on 92 octane fuel! E-85 soon!
Sandalones are great. I mean running on 1150cc would be impossible on a SAFC.
This is so cool!!!!
:haker:
Shane@DBPerformance
06-13-2008, 09:45 AM
You can run 1600s on a chipped factory ECU...
I love MS. I am running it on my turbo'd 420a with 1660cc injectors and E85. Steap learning curve but once you figure it out it makes you feel you rally accomplished something!
Andrew7dg
06-13-2008, 04:34 PM
You can run 1600s on a chipped factory ECU...
Shit... O well better take my factory ecu and just have it chipped...:rolleyes:
niterydr
06-14-2008, 03:01 PM
You can run 1600s on a chipped factory ECU...
Why take the proven ground when you can re-invent the wheel for much more time and money involved?
Andrew7dg
06-15-2008, 10:45 PM
You can run 1600s on a chipped factory ECU...
Why take the proven ground when you can re-invent the wheel for much more time and money involved?
Why do you even bother taking the time to post? I know both of your opinions about the system from the first couple of pages... both as expert shop tuners have taken the "proven ground". To me, this is a freaking hobby...
This is how I look at it as posted in previous
Time- yes there is a lot more time and knowledge that has to go into this instead of your plug and play system. It has a steep learning curve to it and there are a lot of things you have to figure out on your own.
Money-
You have to buy or find:
MS2 ECU<-- forgot to add, I had to upgrade to a 4 bar map sensor with altitude correction
$247.00+$65.00
GM IAC, CLT<-- I did splurge and bought new ones... guilty... wanted to make sure they worked...
$17.25 + $16.25
Knocksense <-- uses the factory mitsu knocksensor (or bosh or whichever knock sensor) plus comes with a blinky bulb to show when it is reading knock. can be set for sensitivity. Expensive but better then no knock sensor. I think it is a must for a turbo car
$65.00
WB O2 <-- which I think you should buy even with DSMlink or AEM EMS but that is just my opinion.
315.00
Wire<-- really expensive from radioshack...
um... $20.00 maybe...
Soldering gun <--- however used this to make other proper connections (radioshack again)
$20.00
ECU wiring from another car (Hyundai car worked) + relays
$3 <--expensive....
748.50
make it fair $800 for a ECU+ with WB 02
there you got me...
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