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JET
11-29-2007, 07:39 PM
What do ford and cummins turbo's have to do with variable vane?

Goat Blower
11-29-2007, 08:52 PM
How about a turbo taken off of a Powerstroke 6.0 diesel? I don't know what the model number is comparable to, but it is a garret and here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Garrett-Turbo-Application-unknown-like-Ford-6-0_W0QQitemZ170174391411QQihZ007QQcategoryZ33742QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)'s a link to some pictures I found of a shot one on e-bay.

Why reinvent the wheel? Fifteen years ago, you had about two options for an upgraded turbo for your DSM, now you've got a hundred. Pulling some turbo off a totally different rig doesn't save you any money, and the compressor and turbine wheels won't be nearly ideal for your hooptie.

FattyBoomBatty
11-29-2007, 11:25 PM
Well, try it. tell us if it works.

snea
11-30-2007, 07:22 AM
The Ford turbo is a Variable Geometry/Vane Turbo. If I had a car and some spair cash, I definitely would try this out, but I don't have the ability to, so I'm going to try and do some research to see if its even slightly feasible.

JET
11-30-2007, 11:39 AM
Here is a clip out of the Wiki for the Ford 6.0 powerstroke.

"There were also minor problems resulting from the unreliable factory variable-vane turbocharger"

Probably not one you want to try :D

Pushit2.0
11-30-2007, 11:54 AM
If you people want boost so fast setup a raily style antilag. If you have a setup that spools fast its going to choke up top (road race/auto cross), if you have a setup that is laggy but makes good power up top its less "streetable", if you need boost all the time to drive your car normaly. The DSM is not a good jack or all trades car, if you try this it ends up sucking at everything.

~John

Pushit2.0
11-30-2007, 11:59 AM
I wouldn't mind a 60 trim that would spool at 2000. :robot:

I had a 60trim on my car back in the day, with a 2.0 motor, stage 3 exhaust wheel and a .82A/R housing the thing would surge like crazy from ~4500 - almost 6000rpm, So if you had this turbo spool faster it would only make it worse.

~John

snea
11-30-2007, 01:21 PM
Here is a clip out of the Wiki for the Ford 6.0 powerstroke.

"There were also minor problems resulting from the unreliable factory variable-vane turbocharger"

Probably not one you want to try :D

You're right, I drive an 05 F-350 with a 6.0 with 80k miles on it, it just started acting up this past week, I need to pull it apart and polish it up, unless its covered under the engines warranty. Please also remember that these turbo's are being used on diesel engines, when is the last time you saw your car exhaust a cloud of black smke and soot? I was just using this turbo as an example of a turbo that's not nearly as small as a VNT-25 Garret like is on the VW's.

I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel, I'm not trying to get a jack of all trades turbo, and I'm not trying to look like a fool on this forum, but you guys seem to want to burn me. I have nto been able to get any results for information on the sizes of the turbine, housing, compressor cover, or wheel, my ford buddies just aren't cooperating.

Jakey
11-30-2007, 01:52 PM
Don't the variable geometry turbos have an electronic control system coupled to them as well?

Goat Blower
11-30-2007, 02:33 PM
You're right, I drive an 05 F-350 with a 6.0 with 80k miles on it, it just started acting up this past week, I need to pull it apart and polish it up, unless its covered under the engines warranty.

Bring it to the dealer right away, it should be under warranty. I just sold an '05 F350 with the 6.0, they have a problem with the high pressure oil pump fitting wearing out, which happened to mine at 101K. Cost me $1800 to fix, not to mention a week of sitting in hillbilly heaven, Norwalk Ohio. They might have covered it if I brought it to the dealer, but I ended up taking it to a big diesel mechanic since Ford wasn't open on Saturday.