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Black97civic
11-23-2007, 12:42 AM
I don't find HID's to be blinding at all. I personally feel they are easier on my eyes then the standard Halogen bulbs.
Stock/well installed hid's or halfass installed ones like these. Stock/well installed ones are easier on the eyes because of the sharper cutoff and less glare, these will be worse than halogens because they will have all the problems that halogens have, and they are brighter, plus the housings aren't designed for HID bulbs, so the beam pattern would probably be worse.
I am seriously considering an HID projector retrofit for my honda, they are definately nice, getting cheaper by the day, and my current headlights suck balls.
Kevin 1G Drummer
11-23-2007, 02:44 PM
Stock/well installed hid's or halfass installed ones like these. Stock/well installed ones are easier on the eyes because of the sharper cutoff and less glare, these will be worse than halogens because they will have all the problems that halogens have, and they are brighter, plus the housings aren't designed for HID bulbs, so the beam pattern would probably be worse.
I am seriously considering an HID projector retrofit for my honda, they are definately nice, getting cheaper by the day, and my current headlights suck balls.
1. How do you know he halfassed the install? Have you seen it first hand?
2. How would the beam pattern be any different? the only difference is the brightness of the bulb. He didn't change the reflector of the headlight at all, hence: no change in beam pattern.
Black97civic
11-23-2007, 06:37 PM
1. How do you know he halfassed the install? Have you seen it first hand?
He said that they are in standard halogen housings, that in and of itself makes it a halfassed install. I am sure he tightened down all the bolts, and has the headlights aligned, but he still didn't do it the correct way.
2. How would the beam pattern be any different? the only difference is the brightness of the bulb. He didn't change the reflector of the headlight at all, hence: no change in beam pattern.
Look at the image I attached, the one on the left is an HID bulb, the one on the right is a standard halogen, see any difference??
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
Read that link, or if you're too lazy, I'll quote the important part for you...
Halogen headlamps and HID headlamps require very different optics to produce a safe and effective—not to mention legal—beam pattern. How come? Because of the very different characteristics of the two kinds of light source.
A halogen bulb has a cylindrical light source: the glowing filament. The space immediately surrounding the cylinder of light is completely dark, and so the sharpest contrast between bright and dark is along the edges of the cylinder of light. The ends of the filament cylinder fade from bright to dark. An HID bulb, on the other hand, has a crescent-shaped light source -- the arc.
So yeah, a half assed, possibly dangerous, and illegal. Yeah, I doubt he will get pulled over for it, but it is still annoying as fuck when someone like him pulls up behind me and blinds the shit out of me even though "Its all good, I gotz tyte eyebrows on my headlights, lol!!"
BTW, maybe do a little bit of research before trying to sound like you know what you are talking about, everything I found came from common automotive knowledge, and 5 seconds of google searching.
A//// Guy
11-23-2007, 07:12 PM
Yea and what isnt half assed on most dsm owners cars on this site? I said most.. not all.
Sweet HIDS, I cant wait to see them in person! And Im regretting not getting a set... :(
Kevin 1G Drummer
11-23-2007, 08:08 PM
He said that they are in standard halogen housings, that in and of itself makes it a halfassed install. I am sure he tightened down all the bolts, and has the headlights aligned, but he still didn't do it the correct way.
Look at the image I attached, the one on the left is an HID bulb, the one on the right is a standard halogen, see any difference??
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
Read that link, or if you're too lazy, I'll quote the important part for you...
So yeah, a half assed, possibly dangerous, and illegal. Yeah, I doubt he will get pulled over for it, but it is still annoying as fuck when someone like him pulls up behind me and blinds the shit out of me even though "Its all good, I gotz tyte eyebrows on my headlights, lol!!"
BTW, maybe do a little bit of research before trying to sound like you know what you are talking about, everything I found came from common automotive knowledge, and 5 seconds of google searching.
In your opinion, it may be a half assed install, but it's just that: your opinion. I do agree that there are better ways to do the HID conversion, but I don't see a problem with doing it this way. If they're being manufactured to be installed this way, then I don't see a problem with it. I spent a good bit of time reading that article you posted a link to, and a few other articles he wrote. Yes there is a little difference in beam pattern, but I don't think it would hinder the performance of the headlights, considering there is more light output.
BTW, I wasn't trying to call you out, so there's no need to get all defensive.
polishmafia
11-23-2007, 08:16 PM
wow. i didnt know my headlights could make so many people angry... and not even blinding them on the road... but with pictures on a website :D
bluntedelvis
11-23-2007, 08:23 PM
^I say fuck'em, it looks tit's!!!! I should get some for my 2g
YiNYaNg
11-24-2007, 02:58 AM
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=37661&highlight=
Looky what I found :lol:
mdost03
11-24-2007, 11:47 AM
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=37661&highlight=
Looky what I found :lol:
We need to be members there to view.
Goat Blower
11-24-2007, 11:56 AM
He's a hater because he's right and what you're doing is both unsafe and not legal? Hmm...
And you both know all this from a few camera phone photos?
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