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Pushit2.0
02-27-2004, 04:14 PM
How much are the cams? I would not risk 272s and a stock turbo, and $600 for 30hp is a little out of wack(if the 14b would even pick that much up). I would imagine the 414s are similar to the 264s, so I dont think you would get more than 18-20hp. You already have 93cams, stay with those and when you buy a really turbo get the good cams.

~John

1ViciousGSX
02-27-2004, 10:29 PM
You should get more than 30hp with the HKS cams with supporting mods.

Pushit2.0
02-28-2004, 12:19 PM
A 14b is not a supporting mod, which is the turbo being used in this set up. And I do not think running less boost would help much. Also you could see if your 14b is a lefthand thread or not.

~John

Shane@DBPerformance
02-28-2004, 12:23 PM
Did anyone even read what crazyboost posted above? Don't expect a huge HP gain from cams. There will be a good gain in the 7000-7500 range(I dunno about with a 14B that doesn't flow crap at that level), but not a lot of a peak HP gain. the 10-15HP gain that AMS got in their testing are right inline with the gains that I have got on cars that we put cams in, even ones with bigger turbos. Even HKS 272/272s are no where near a wild cam when compared to the cams you see on domestics and VTEC cars. To run an aggressive cam in our heads you need to cut down the valve guides to actually get some high lift. Cams are a decent mod, but they can be put off for quite a while. I would like to see what the power curve is like on a car with a sheetmetal intake and stock cams. With aftermarket cams the power still starts falling in the 6500RPM area, it usually take a sheetmetal intake to hold the power out longer or have it keep rising.