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JET
04-11-2007, 02:55 PM
You can go a hell of a lot farther with sales that working at a car lot. Get into inside/outside sales in a larger company, most require a degree. The money potential is huge. I also went for a ME degree for a while. I started talking to some engineers and decided I didn't want to sit in front of a computer all day, so I changed fields. If you get in a small company you can get hands on still, but I want to see how well the parts I design work when they are done.

I ended up getting out of school for a while and getting into the job field. The real killer with that is the financial aid goes down the crapper once you start making some money and it makes school difficult. Basically you have to keep a job and go to school, which is a pain.

HiImBrian
04-11-2007, 03:08 PM
You can go a hell of a lot farther with sales that working at a car lot. Get into inside/outside sales in a larger company, most require a degree. The money potential is huge. I also went for a ME degree for a while. I started talking to some engineers and decided I didn't want to sit in front of a computer all day, so I changed fields. If you get in a small company you can get hands on still, but I want to see how well the parts I design work when they are done.

I ended up getting out of school for a while and getting into the job field. The real killer with that is the financial aid goes down the crapper once you start making some money and it makes school difficult. Basically you have to keep a job and go to school, which is a pain.

I understand that. I've been working as a tele-marketer during school and it's really not that bad. I talk to alumni everyday about what they are currently doing. Most of them are engineers that I speak with, so I hear a lot of good things obviously. Where could I go with sales? You said I can get in a larger company and still have that hands on experience? That's what I want right there, but idk what job that would be or how to get there. Like I said I have a pretty good nitch for selling things. But I don't want to be one of those people that don't know what the heck they are selling. For example, when I was car shopping with my dad I would ask the salesmen questions that they had no idea what to say. I want to really be involved and make a difference. I have thought about becoming a sales rep, but again I don't know too much about that profession either.

JET
04-11-2007, 03:49 PM
There is a good spot for sales engineers too. Technical sales people are becoming more common now, it helps with product differentiation. Sales has huge profit potential, but there will probably be travelling involved (on the companies dime of course!). It definitely has its perks, especially when younger. Engineering and sales are on 2 different ends of the spectrum, you have to decide which way is best for you to head down. Do you want to deal with people or sit at a computer?

AJ
04-11-2007, 03:52 PM
maybe focus a job search with those who offer to pay for their employees to go back to school. Look into online classes to free up normal working hours and make sure any schools you look at are acreddited so credits transfer with ease and you don't lose money. This can allow you to also have flexibily of a smaller school, get a solid GPA, and use it to transfeer into other schools as you see fit.

Sales and Business can be tought if you have the mind set. I foiled out of school after 1 year when I went right out of high school. Now I'm half way finished with my BSBA in Finance and have a path to also get my BSBA in Business Management and move to my Masters in Finance or Business after that. I plan to work in Finance/Accounting for 5-10 year during all this school till I can work and network my way into my own business again or into a VP positon in a company like the one I work for now. The best thing is, my work is paying for everything but my books right now, so it was the perfect time to go back and I'll milk it for everything can.

HiImBrian
04-11-2007, 04:02 PM
There is a good spot for sales engineers too. Technical sales people are becoming more common now, it helps with product differentiation. Sales has huge profit potential, but there will probably be travelling involved (on the companies dime of course!). It definitely has its perks, especially when younger. Engineering and sales are on 2 different ends of the spectrum, you have to decide which way is best for you to head down. Do you want to deal with people or sit at a computer?

If you say it that way, I'd rather deal with people in a professional manner than sit in front of a computer.

HiImBrian
04-11-2007, 04:08 PM
maybe focus a job search with those who offer to pay for their employees to go back to school. Look into online classes to free up normal working hours and make sure any schools you look at are acreddited so credits transfer with ease and you don't lose money. This can allow you to also have flexibily of a smaller school, get a solid GPA, and use it to transfeer into other schools as you see fit.

Sales and Business can be tought if you have the mind set. I foiled out of school after 1 year when I went right out of high school. Now I'm half way finished with my BSBA in Finance and have a path to also get my BSBA in Business Management and move to my Masters in Finance or Business after that. I plan to work in Finance/Accounting for 5-10 year during all this school till I can work and network my way into my own business again or into a VP positon in a company like the one I work for now. The best thing is, my work is paying for everything but my books right now, so it was the perfect time to go back and I'll milk it for everything can.

That's awesome! So how did you manage to work for or even find a company that would pay for your schooling? I've heard of that before but idk how to find a business like that. Also, as VP what do you do specifically? What company is it?

A//// Guy
04-11-2007, 04:11 PM
Most companies are willing to pay for additional training and schooling, as long as you stay with them X amount of years. That is how my company does things.

AJ
04-11-2007, 04:18 PM
That's awesome! So how did you manage to work for or even find a company that would pay for your schooling? I've heard of that before but idk how to find a business like that. Also, as VP what do you do specifically? What company is it?

I went through Ajilon Temp Agency and just got lucky. My only experiance was doing the books for QPR, and that year was enough experiance to get in at the time. They had the benefit of Tuituion Reimbursement and I am taking full advantage of it. When I first started there was no rules to it, I could leave at any time after getting my degree. Now I only have to stay a year past or pay any funds I'm gained through the program in the past year back upon leaving. Go to a temp agency, and talk to them. Talking about your goals can make a huge difference. If they don't pay attention to you, move on to another agency ot branch. You have to feel good about the people you rely on. A VP can have many duties but it's mostly decision making and allocation at my company. For me, that's a goal, where I'll need to know how everything works from the ground up. Just don't be afraid to to take your time.

HiImBrian
04-11-2007, 04:39 PM
I went through Ajilon Temp Agency and just got lucky. My only experiance was doing the books for QPR, and that year was enough experiance to get in at the time. They had the benefit of Tuituion Reimbursement and I am taking full advantage of it. When I first started there was no rules to it, I could leave at any time after getting my degree. Now I only have to stay a year past or pay any funds I'm gained through the program in the past year back upon leaving. Go to a temp agency, and talk to them. Talking about your goals can make a huge difference. If they don't pay attention to you, move on to another agency ot branch. You have to feel good about the people you rely on. A VP can have many duties but it's mostly decision making and allocation at my company. For me, that's a goal, where I'll need to know how everything works from the ground up. Just don't be afraid to to take your time.

Once again, great advice. I'll speak with my advisor about how to get in touch with some temp agencies and see what they offer. I have quite a few ins to working at a dealership and possibly selling cars this summer. I don't believe any of them would offer tuition reimbursement, but after what I've been hearing about business management/salse I think becoming a vp or a sales rep sounds like something I wouldn't mind doing. They both bring in the money as well and that's definitely not a bad thing :) If you don't mind me asking, what company is it you work for? And did you just take whatever job was offered and decided to work your way to vp?

AJ
04-11-2007, 05:16 PM
I work for ATK inc and no, I was looking for something withing accounting. I don't want to get you mixed up, but I'm not a VP. I still work in the accounting area. I'm setting my goals for VP in the next 10-20 years. LOL