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JET
04-11-2007, 11:57 AM
This block in question is not being honed, so it will not be flat. He is also not going to be running 40 psi, therefore for this application the stock headgasket IS the best for this application. If he were going to consistently run over 35 psi or had both the head and block remachined, then that would change.

v8klla
04-11-2007, 12:08 PM
There is no question that the OEM will work, my point is simply that the ICS Titan would be better if he decides to add modifications down the line. Also, with the ICS Titan it is not required that the surface be machined. Therefore we will be using these on all non-machined high boost applications.

Shane@DBPerformance
04-11-2007, 12:41 PM
Stock 1G head bolts are very strong, maybe stronger than ARPs. There is also a huge difference between 28psi on a 14B and 28psi on GT35R. Cylinder pressure is what spins that crank device in the bottom of the motor, not boost.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo
04-11-2007, 01:19 PM
Get one of those Cut-it-yourself gasket makers. It's cheaper than stock and you can get it close to round if you try hard enough.

Better yet, RTV!!!!!!!

Swifty1638
04-11-2007, 01:20 PM
Don't even run a hg. If the surfaces are flat enough, just tighten down the headstuds! Duh!

-A. Swift

scheides
04-11-2007, 02:23 PM
+1 for RTV!

niterydr
04-11-2007, 02:24 PM
Maybe if you would stop being a jackass and listen to what we are saying rather than think of yourself as the almighty car god you would get the point we are trying to make.

Why thank you. I tend to think that I know a thing or two about cars, but a car god? You shouldn't have.
I am hearing EXACTLY what you are saying. We have these instock and on sale. I've got this sweet account and can link information from the vendors website for supporting facts. Give credit where credit is due? Why would I do that?


Will the OEM head gasket work for this application? Yes

Is it the best head gasket available? No.
Well Duh. But if you looked at what the customer has for modifications, not your shelf stock, you would realize your recommondation is WRONG. He has intercooler piping and a fmic as modifications. Unless he is trying to make a car that makes more power than most people on this website, he'll be fine. Now if he listed stuff like "I want 600+awhp" then yes a properly configured copper/composite headgasket with the proper surface on the head deck will be a good idea.

Perhaps you should read the title of this thread more closely? And you can't honestly tell me that the OEM head gasket is the best choice running upwards of 40 psi???

Yeah he said best head gasket for 91 tsi. Not best headgasket for my 71mm, built motor, built car. He blew a headgasket on his stockish car, he wants a replacement. Yes he does not want to replace it again, but spending extra money for an item that is not needed is a bit foolish.


Here is some "proper tech input" on a material known as Copper, and three reasons why it makes a better head gasket:

1. Conductivity. Copper is the standard by which all other conductors are measured, therefore a copper gasket provides superior thermal conductivity, acting to stabilize head and block temperatures which makes tuning easier.

2. 25% coefficient of elasticity. One of the properties of copper is that it stretches before a catastrophic failure, thereby providing an extra measure of safety in case of severe detonation.

3. Strength. Copper has a tensile strength of approximately 32,000 psi, compare this to the 1,200 to 1800 psi tensile of most facing materials used on conventional performance head gaskets.

http://www.scegaskets.com/techtips/benefitsof.html

You could have just linked it you jackass. Great copy and paste.


The difference between you and me, is that I WRITE the fucking tech articles, you just copy and paste them.
:GoogleHell2:

Now back to designing upgraded oil pump gears for the 6g72's and other products for vehicles that NEED it. Forgive me for devoting R&D time into worthwhile products with my "godlike" powers, LMAO.

EclipseGST
04-11-2007, 02:31 PM
Com'on guys, no need to call out eachother on a forum where you are both vendors.

Here is a hose.... Wash that sand out your vagina. Its the internet guys!

Kracka
04-11-2007, 02:39 PM
Wow, simply wow. There goes the "we welcome competition". Ditch the Buschur-like better than God attitude Swanny; in the long-run, its never good for a business nor is is good for friendly competition.

A//// Guy
04-11-2007, 02:42 PM
Swanny- You DO need to stop acting like a "Car God," it gets real old and definetly is going to hurt you. Everyone has different opinions and yours is NOT always correct. If you would have done things right on your 3S in the first place, you would not have blown how many engines? So don't get into the topic of spending extra money for an item that isn't "needed."

Original topic was what is the BEST head gasket for a 91 tsi AWD, didn't say anything else. So technically the best is usually the top model of X brand. Therefore a stock mitsu is not correct, even though it might be good enough or the best option for now.

All this one sided shop talk is getting pretty rediculous.