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A//// Guy
01-31-2007, 04:23 PM
It wasnt too bad. There are ALOT of wires but they are all color coded. Just have to find out what the stock colors are and tap into them. I did alot of wiring on that car though... hard wired logger (power), hard wired radar detector, stereo system etc... I hate wiring but Ill still do it. lol
Halon
01-31-2007, 04:54 PM
Hmm... I've never installed a security system before. Not sure if that's something I'd want to do, or have a pro do. That Clifford one looks real nice. Whatever I get, I want it to have a pager on it to let me know if someone is messing with the car. This weekend I may go to like Best Buy, Ultimate, Circuit City, see what they all have. Not sure where else there is. I'll look around Ebay as well. Only thing is if I get one off ebay, not sure if a place like Best Buy would install it.
b00stcreep21
01-31-2007, 04:59 PM
Yeah, security system installs aren't exactly a walk in the park. It's not fun. The viper that my brother was talking about is amazingly nice. I loved mine. Your best bet is picking one up on e-bay cause they're decently cheap there as compared to best buy (a real viper one), and taking it someplace to get installed. I think the install on mine at circuit city was like $100? I can't EXACTLY remember sice it was so long ago, and I didn't really shop around either so it could be cheaper somewhere else
xveganxcowboyx
01-31-2007, 05:03 PM
It wasnt too bad. There are ALOT of wires but they are all color coded. Just have to find out what the stock colors are and tap into them. I did alot of wiring on that car though... hard wired logger (power), hard wired radar detector, stereo system etc... I hate wiring but Ill still do it. lol
Do they all just get tapped into the ecu harness (clip and solder)? When I did it years ago I was under the (hopefully mistaken) impression that the door lock wires had to go to the doors, etc... If so, it doesn't sound too bad. Just stretch the harness out and cut/solder the appropriate wires.
b00stcreep21
01-31-2007, 05:12 PM
No, some of the wiring needs to be tied into the wiring for the locks themselves. You can either go into the door to do this, or you can find the wiring inside the cab and splice them in there. There's nothing on the ECU that will control the door locks
vr-4lif3
01-31-2007, 05:54 PM
Most door locks can be found under the kick panel. The reason why the instructions aren't that clear is because each car is different. I used to have a job installing remote starts. After seeing some of the work that best buy has done I would only take it to one you trust or can watch over them. This last weekend my buddy was doing a car that best buy had done and best buy didn't even use soder on the wires. They just tapped them up.
DSMstyle- as far as the MS6 I would only take that to a reputable shop. It is a tricky one to do. The door lock wires are located in the passanger side kick panel.
Halon
01-31-2007, 05:56 PM
OK, so I'm looking on ebay, and there are several ones for under 200 bucks that come with the pagers, but I have no idea if these are good, or what to even look for. So I start looking at Viper and Clifford, and it's just bits and pieces. This is dumb, I just want to buy a complete kit, I want it to be decent, and I have no clue if these cheaper ones are any good or what.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ALARM-CAR-WHOLESALE-Dodge-Viper_W0QQitemZ230084498619QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3372 1QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
SLOW_V
01-31-2007, 07:51 PM
Just buy a DEI unit. Honestly the pager does not work that well. If some one wants your car they are going to get it. The main thing is you don't want false alarms. With DEI you press the button once it arms. You press it twice it disarms your shock sensor. Press it three times it disarms the door trigger. This comes in handy when you need to shut a sensor off because of false alarms. What I like the most out of DEI is the brain is small and can be hidden. Autopage has a brain the same size as our ECU. I go DEI hands down. I used to be an installer and alarms are not that bad
Halon
01-31-2007, 07:56 PM
OK, DEI, but on ebay you look up that, and it shows you bits and pieces. I have no idea what any of this crap is. And there are a million different models. And I want a pager, that way I know if someone is messing with it. If I'm somewhere where I wouldn't hear the alarm, I'd like to know it went off so I can get out there asap.
asshanson
01-31-2007, 08:39 PM
They don't have an auto start for manuals.
Not true, I have one on my manual and it works great.
Honestly the pager does not work that well.
My pager works great, it's beeped and I've gone out to catch someone who dinged my door on several occasions. I'm pretty confident that if someone was breaking in, it would page me then too.
Try these, maybe you can find cheaper ones on ebay though, I just found the first few that looked like the nice 2 way paging ones:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Viper-791XV-Remote-Starter-Alarm-Security-2-Way-LCD-New_W0QQitemZ130074937447QQihZ003QQcategoryZ94832Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Viper-791-Car-Alarm-W-Remote-Start_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33721QQihZ018QQit emZ280076981971QQrdZ1
The following one is used, but much cheaper. Also has a lot of nice extras like the trunk popper and the proximity sensor. Hell, it even has two remotes (identical to the one I have actually), although one is missing the battery cover. If I didn't already have this, I'd get it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Viper-remote-start-car-alarm-keyless-entry-790xv-EXTRAS_W0QQitemZ320077139387QQihZ011QQcategoryZ602 02QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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