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scheides
01-17-2007, 11:39 PM
What's more interesting is seeing people drop these hks 280's and swapping in revolvers w/ valvesprings & retainers. Some are seeing like 50 lb-ft of torque over the 280's!

Thor06
01-18-2007, 01:42 AM
Whoa.... revolver? Whats that?

Super Bleeder!!
01-18-2007, 03:25 AM
Its a cam buschnuts sells.

tim
01-18-2007, 11:01 AM
Whoa.... revolver? Whats that?

http://www.revolvercams.com/mitsubishi.html

http://www.revolvercams.com/specsheets/evospecs.htm

Goat Blower
01-18-2007, 11:59 AM
That extra 50 ft/lb claim is probably only done in house at Bushnuts, and probably performed by Fat Boy Friedman. YMMV

FattyBoomBatty
01-18-2007, 01:08 PM
I would like to see this revolver at work. Scheides - you must sell these wimpy 280's and get the revolvers.

scheides
01-18-2007, 01:57 PM
Hah! Maybe whenever I end up taking the head off. For now the 280's are dandy. I've heard AEM is key to getting the revolvers to idle too...

92EvilTalon
01-18-2007, 06:08 PM
Very nice numbers...

scheides
01-25-2007, 02:57 PM
So, an update. First off, the car is solid, and has been since it left DB. I took s2kracka and m3guy for a spin the other night, I'm sure they can attest to its gutsyness. No it does not have 500whp, but DAMN it is fun to drive like this! The car seems to just jump ahead of anything else on the street, and with the ACD in 'Tarmac' mode, the rear end is squirrelly with just me in the car. I swapped out the fresh set of BPR7ES plugs gapped at .026" with some BPR8ES plugs gapped at .022" based on what I have read others use w/ alky. The car feels about the same at 24.5psi, no change.

I picked up an openport cable to do some logging with, and found some interesting results. Bumping up the boost about an 1/8 turn on my MBC looks like it brings peak boost up to an even 25psi and all is stable/dandy (knock count in the 1-2 range). If I do a run through the gears from first or second up to about 80 or 100mph, 0 knock, clean as a whistle every time. If I do a third or 4th gear pull, that is when I see a bit of knock, and it's only at boost onset.

If I bump it up a little more to 26, knock count rises. It's probably at a safe level, but it's higher than I want it to be (knock count in the 5-8 range). This is where I'd like the car to be, and it should be able to be leaned out a bit (current afr's are 11.2:1, see my other thread). At this boost level, IDC's hit 93% at 7300rpms, so I am not running out of fuel on my stock injectors.

If I crank the boost goes up further to 27-28psi, knock count goes up to 11-12 and the car even hit fuel cut once (or boost cut, not sure if there is a difference).

So, I'd like to be at 26psi with 0 knock, maybe 1-2 like I am at now, but I'm not sure what exactly is holding me back. There are people all over evom claiming to be running my exact setup with denatured alcohol and running 26psi no problem. Now, maybe they haven't logged their car and get a little knock at that boost level, I'm not sure. At this point, the only thing I can think to try is to swap out the alky for meth, or a 50/50 meth mix w/ H2O. The thing is, chemically they are so close there shouldn't really be much of a difference.

Does anyone have any input?

scheides
01-25-2007, 04:48 PM
Here's a good example log @ ~26psi:

RPM TPS Airflow KnockCt TimingAdv
3937.5 100 1239.13 6 -2
4093.75 100 1302.03 6 -2
4281.25 100 1333.48 5 0
4437.5 100 1346.06 5 0
4625 100 1415.25 5 0
4781.25 100 1522.18 4 1
5000 100 1547.34 4 1
5156.25 100 1603.95 4 1
5312.5 100 1603.95 4 2
5500 100 1603.95 3 3
5687.5 100 1603.95 3 4
5812.5 100 1603.95 3 5
5968.75 100 1603.95 3 7
6156.25 100 1603.95 2 9
6343.75 100 1603.95 2 9
6437.5 100 1603.95 2 10
6593.75 100 1603.95 2 12
6750 100 1603.95 1 14
6906.25 100 1603.95 1 15
7031.25 100 1603.95 1 15
7156.25 100 1603.95 1 15
7312.5 100 1603.95 0 16
7437.5 100 1603.95 1 15


(sorry for the poor formating)