dumb_ricer
12-18-2006, 01:21 AM
Okay, so right now I own a 2004 Pontiac GTO that is pulling year round duty. One of the reasons I bought the car was the fact that it had 4 seats, had an LS1, and was generally a fantastic car. This has been proven to be true, but only to some extent.
As some of you know, the GTO is a fucking tank (almost 4000lbs lol 3kgt/stealth) and tends to have mediocre (sp?) handling. I handles great when it settles itself into a corner, but just throwing it in it tends to understeer or snap oversteer when you give it too much gas on exit. All in all, I love handling, and believe cars should be built around it, so I am probably going to be selling the goat come spring.
Now comes the questions. Both cars I have in mind are very nimble fast cars around a track, but they have extremely different ways of doing it.
1. C5 FRC or Coupe 6speed. (FRC has a short rear glass and a long trunklid, Coupe has rear glass all the way back to the rear bumper almost). The FRC is generally a better handling, lighter, and better performing car. Its a little more rigid as the top doesn't come off, so performance is better. But man do coupes look sexy:). This car would be a 6speed with between 50 and 80k miles on it more than likely, and has an LS1 in it, so great mod potential. Handling is world class with the Z51 package, and it is extremely quick around tracks stock, and everything about the car has mod potential. They tend to be reliable 12.6-12.8 second cars stock trapping around 110mph. Fantastic and strong IRS along with a great 6speed means a clutch is all the driveline needs to be 10sec capable. Maybe even 9's, lol. So therefore it can be a awesome allaround car and do pretty much anything well. Stock shortblock is about 650whp capable. 600 safely. 600whp seems to put 6speed in mid 10's at 132ish.
2. Honda S2000. I have test driven many of these cars, and every time I come out with the same feeling. God damn is it small, but I'll be damned if this isnt the funnest thing I have ever driven. I am possibly too big for one, at 6'3 and 220lbs, and probably look funny driving them, but they are so sexy and so easy to throw around in corners. The fun potential is there stock, and even more so modded. Drawbacks for me are:
1. Rearend. Breaks with boltons and wheelhop, haha. Some companies (comptech) do make aftermarket housings which possibly seem to help, but still might not. Problem lies in flexing of the cap bolt areas under stress. Very hard to fix. Gay problem, huge downfall IMO.
2. Motor. 350whp on stock shortblocks seems to be the blowup ticket. At those power levels the car would be insanely fun, but of course I would want more, and a built motor is just going to bring the car over the top for what I would more than likely end up doing with it.
On the upside, the transmission is fantastic, it handles sweet, brakes good, and in general, feels like an F1 car with body panels and 2 seats. I also love the looks.
Given these 2 choices, which would you choose, assuming each costed right around 20,000 dollars. You can get both for 15,000ish, but a good one of either is right around 20,000.
I think my mind is set on a White 1999ish Corvette Coupe with tinted windows and Polished C5 Zo6 wheels, but what would you get?
As some of you know, the GTO is a fucking tank (almost 4000lbs lol 3kgt/stealth) and tends to have mediocre (sp?) handling. I handles great when it settles itself into a corner, but just throwing it in it tends to understeer or snap oversteer when you give it too much gas on exit. All in all, I love handling, and believe cars should be built around it, so I am probably going to be selling the goat come spring.
Now comes the questions. Both cars I have in mind are very nimble fast cars around a track, but they have extremely different ways of doing it.
1. C5 FRC or Coupe 6speed. (FRC has a short rear glass and a long trunklid, Coupe has rear glass all the way back to the rear bumper almost). The FRC is generally a better handling, lighter, and better performing car. Its a little more rigid as the top doesn't come off, so performance is better. But man do coupes look sexy:). This car would be a 6speed with between 50 and 80k miles on it more than likely, and has an LS1 in it, so great mod potential. Handling is world class with the Z51 package, and it is extremely quick around tracks stock, and everything about the car has mod potential. They tend to be reliable 12.6-12.8 second cars stock trapping around 110mph. Fantastic and strong IRS along with a great 6speed means a clutch is all the driveline needs to be 10sec capable. Maybe even 9's, lol. So therefore it can be a awesome allaround car and do pretty much anything well. Stock shortblock is about 650whp capable. 600 safely. 600whp seems to put 6speed in mid 10's at 132ish.
2. Honda S2000. I have test driven many of these cars, and every time I come out with the same feeling. God damn is it small, but I'll be damned if this isnt the funnest thing I have ever driven. I am possibly too big for one, at 6'3 and 220lbs, and probably look funny driving them, but they are so sexy and so easy to throw around in corners. The fun potential is there stock, and even more so modded. Drawbacks for me are:
1. Rearend. Breaks with boltons and wheelhop, haha. Some companies (comptech) do make aftermarket housings which possibly seem to help, but still might not. Problem lies in flexing of the cap bolt areas under stress. Very hard to fix. Gay problem, huge downfall IMO.
2. Motor. 350whp on stock shortblocks seems to be the blowup ticket. At those power levels the car would be insanely fun, but of course I would want more, and a built motor is just going to bring the car over the top for what I would more than likely end up doing with it.
On the upside, the transmission is fantastic, it handles sweet, brakes good, and in general, feels like an F1 car with body panels and 2 seats. I also love the looks.
Given these 2 choices, which would you choose, assuming each costed right around 20,000 dollars. You can get both for 15,000ish, but a good one of either is right around 20,000.
I think my mind is set on a White 1999ish Corvette Coupe with tinted windows and Polished C5 Zo6 wheels, but what would you get?