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FattyBoomBatty
11-19-2006, 11:31 PM
Wow, that is interesting because this is a quote straight off the US DOT website "Ethanol and Ethanol blends conduct electricity. Gasoline, by contrast, is an electrical insulator."

http://www.chemtrec.org/NR/rdonlyres/30F36514-52C6-4932-A47C-1B3E7B96CD65/0/EthanolandGasolineFuelMixtures.pdf

Alright, I was wrong, (Sorry brandon) according to them, but thank you for that link, it is quite interesting. Just below that tidbit is another, more interesting fact:

At low temps (32*F) e85 vapor is more flamable than gasoline vapor.

edit: nvm.

Edit: also, I just read that the vapor settles in low spots, so would there need to be mods to the gas tank?

Goat Blower
11-20-2006, 02:36 PM
You guys are overthinking this. Put it in, tune accordingly and have fun. You'll be replacing engines before your aluminum parts disintegrate from an ethanol blend.

HKSenilyks
08-09-2007, 04:00 PM
My fuel system consists of a walb255, FPR, and 720cc injectors. I'm using a 20g turbo, do you think I could tune that with my safcII or do I need better tuning capabilities?

ExTREME
08-09-2007, 04:42 PM
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=269341

^750's(i think), 20G, Boom.

I was just reading a shit-ton on this stuff.

DSMLINK forums has some more shit, just search e85 in google.
Heres the spoon for your mouth (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dsm+850cc+e85&btnG=Search)


I plan to run e85 on 850's, E316G, 255 wally, afpr and all on a tune via DSMLINK.

I've been looking to find any current setups running near mine to find out what ratios and volumes to set my 'link to.

only 1800$ and ill be writing up a thing or two on this e85 on a 16G poop. Can't wait to smell like the alley behind a bar!

HKSenilyks
08-09-2007, 04:54 PM
For some reason the first link wouldn't work. Dsmlink would be nice but I can't afford it right now, what do you think about tuning that much fuel with a safcII?

ExTREME
08-09-2007, 05:01 PM
Hmm..Link works for me. Check the google link, that is where I first came across the evomn link.

Goat Blower
08-09-2007, 10:41 PM
You'll be fine. E85 takes roughly 30% more fuel to run stoich, so you only need to subtract about 19% fuel at idle and part throttle to make 720's work. Well within the range of a SAFC2.

Shane@DBPerformance
08-09-2007, 11:02 PM
HKS: What MAS are you running?

As far as tuning, 720s+ E85, should work very well with an SAFC on paper, better than trying to tune them on pump gas with all the timing side effects you run into with having to go very negative on the SAFC.

The biggest problem will be the car making too much power and maxing out the 720s early. 720s on E85 are comparing in power handling to 510-550cc injectors on normal gas.

FattyBoomBatty
08-10-2007, 06:50 AM
What MAS are you running?

As far as tuning, 720s+ E85, should work very well with an SAFC on paper, better than trying to tune them on pump gas with all the timing side effects you run into with having to go very negative on the SAFC.

The biggest problem will be the car making too much power and maxing out the 720s early. 720s on E85 are comparing in power handling to 510-550cc injectors on normal gas.

That answer is good enough for me. :) Just too bad it took 9 months to get it. ;)

ExTREME
08-10-2007, 12:05 PM
I found some good equations in that evomn site figuring out e85 and what injectors but I'm not a math-magician so I don't really know how far my 850's will get me with an E316G w/2g MAS n' 255 AFPR.