SAFC II or Dsmlink?

[gstjoker]

Should I get both the SAFC II and Dsmlink? Or is it not really worth it to get the SAFC II and just save up to get the Dsmlink? Sorry if this is a noobish question.

[sleepydsm]

The SAFC2 is not that bad of a choice, you can make power and have decent driveability with it. Pretty much everyone will say DSMLink is a MUCH better option, very user friendly and has was more potential to make power reliably versus an safc2. I guess you just need to figure out what your budget is, and where you want to go with your car (power wise).

[94AWDTSi]

I asked 1ViciousGSX/sleepydsm this questions couple of weeks back, they recommend DSMlink over MAFT and SAFCII! But if your already have them use them! But SAFCII is not needed! haha

[FattyBoomBatty]

Don't you retain a MAF with dsmlink? I thought I've seen MAFT setups with dsmlink.

[Kracka]

The MAF-T really should be kept seperate of DSMLink or a SAFC. No matter which tuning device I chose, I'd still run it along with the MAF-T.

I personally ran the MAF-T/AFC combo since DSMLink wasn't yet available for the 1G. My setup was very simple and easy to tune, I had no complaints. I did the general broad tuning with the MAF-T box, then did all the fine tuning with the AFC.

[gstjoker]

Well, this is not anytime soon but I will be upgrading to a Big16g, bigger injectors and fuel pump. With all that, I am pretty sure I am going to need something like a SAFC II or the Dsmlink to tune it. I guess some people have been telling me to just save up to buy the Dsmlink instead of the Safc II. I'm driving a 2g GST btw and plan on running into the 13s area is my goal for the car and I'm done.

[HiImBrian]

The real question is What size injectors are you planning on running? correct me if Im wrong, but safcII works by tricking your ecu and allowing more air/fuel up to a certain point. Stock injectors are 440ccs and if you upgrade much past 650s you are going to have a really rough tune. Go with dsmlink-you'll want it in the end anyways. I'm saving for it and I know it'll be worth every penny.

[gstjoker]

I'm probably going to go with 580cc injectors. Those good enough?

[turbotalon1g]

What is teh rest of your setup? You can do 550s and a 2g mas upgrade on a
1G and they somewhat level out.

[Kracka]

Stock injectors are 440ccs .
450cc

550/580cc injectors are no problm at all for a SAFC. I've personally used both 550 and 650cc injectors with an AFC.