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well after some tearen and comperen the 1g block is missing 1 bolt hole to moke this happen the bolt hole for the timing side is missing so the 2g mount will only have 3 bolds to hold it on as oppsed to 4 so i guess back to square 1 thanks for all the help with what to look for the rest would seem to work including the head bolts just a couple short on mounting :mad:
EclipseGST
08-08-2006, 10:13 PM
Umm.... People put 1g blocks in 2g cars all the time. If you are wondering how you can do it, check www.vfaq.com
The blocks are different yes. They are known as 6 bolt and 7 bolt blocks. No one was talking about the crank. 6 bolt cranks go with 6 bolt blocks, 7 bolt cranks go with 7 bolt blocks. Enough said.
well after some tearen and comperen the 1g block is missing 1 bolt hole to moke this happen the bolt hole for the timing side is missing so the 2g mount will only have 3 bolds to hold it on as oppsed to 4 so i guess back to square 1 thanks for all the help with what to look for the rest would seem to work including the head bolts just a couple short on mounting :mad:
Dont let that deter you.
Spend some time on www.vfaq.com and http://www.roadraceengineering.com/ecltechtips.htm
You will learn a lot. Since you have the 6-bolt already you might as well use it.
tpunx99GSX
08-09-2006, 12:48 PM
there are actually many subtle differences between the blocks. One of this differences is where the water tap for the turbo is, on the newer blocks its in the worst possible place (on the block right where the compressor cover would be) on the 6bolt blocks its not there.
The 2g head will fit on the 1g block, the 2g pistons fit in the block (current setup i have.)
Next time you ask a question (which you really never stated a question in your first post) please make it clear as to what you are getting at. (i.e What kind of answer are you looking for? What differences were you thinking they may have? etc)
And please learn how to type, or learn how to spell.
The insides of the two blocks are also quite different. The 6 bolt is more stout, but the 7 bolt has the full girdle.
there are actually many subtle differences between the blocks. One of this differences is where the water tap for the turbo is, on the newer blocks its in the worst possible place (on the block right where the compressor cover would be) on the 6bolt blocks its not there.
The 2g head will fit on the 1g block, the 2g pistons fit in the block (current setup i have.)
Next time you ask a question (which you really never stated a question in your first post) please make it clear as to what you are getting at. (i.e What kind of answer are you looking for? What differences were you thinking they may have? etc)
And please learn how to type, or learn how to spell.
Well what is looking to find out was like the water jacket for the turbo and the engine mounts if they were the same after tearen the blocks down i found the one that mounts to the car on the driver side is different and does not look like it would mount up. The car is a 95 i would like to use the 92 block and rotating assembly with the 95 head, turbo, intake and trans. I know people make it work but I was unsure how you bolt it in if the mounts are different. I will check the other websites Tim sugested and see what i can come up with. Sorry for the dumb a$$ questions I was a Honda guy and have always built them THEY ARE BORING now and I want something new to me so that is why I got a talon.
Shane@DBPerformance
08-09-2006, 07:20 PM
You need to mod the drivers side 2G motor mount, use a 1G tensioner arm and then get figure out what route you are going to take to aviod the dreaded random misfire error.
tpunx99GSX
08-09-2006, 10:30 PM
You need to mod the drivers side 2G motor mount, use a 1G tensioner arm and then get figure out what route you are going to take to aviod the dreaded random misfire error.
SCRRRRRRR... wait a minute.... What Random misfire error? How do you correct this? I have been getting that off and on for the past couple months. I all of the sudden get this error and how i usually correct it is shut the car off with the ignition on and go into dsmlink and clear the code, it usually corrects it for about a week or so but then it comes back.
Do you know where this comes from?
Sorry for the O/T but i really would like to correct this.
9guy9
08-09-2006, 11:04 PM
SCRRRRRRR... wait a minute.... What Random misfire error? How do you correct this? I have been getting that off and on for the past couple months. I all of the sudden get this error and how i usually correct it is shut the car off with the ignition on and go into dsmlink and clear the code, it usually corrects it for about a week or so but then it comes back.
Do you know where this comes from?
Sorry for the O/T but i really would like to correct this.
In DSM link dissable the randon misfire code check.
Shane@DBPerformance
08-09-2006, 11:10 PM
For emission reasons, often OBD2 cars(not just DSMs) use a crank sensor and cam angle sensor. When the ECU sees that the 2 sensors are not 100% in sync, the ECU thinks a misfire has occured and throws that error. That error sometimes gets thrown on cars that have cams or a lightweight flywheel. The wiring hack to make a 1G motor work in a 2G often causes an extreme version of the random misfire error that makes the car run like crap. The main fix for the problem is to get DSMLink and uncheck it in the DTC menu.
SCRRRRRRR... wait a minute.... What Random misfire error? How do you correct this? I have been getting that off and on for the past couple months. I all of the sudden get this error and how i usually correct it is shut the car off with the ignition on and go into dsmlink and clear the code, it usually corrects it for about a week or so but then it comes back.
Do you know where this comes from?
Sorry for the O/T but i really would like to correct this.
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