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Pimpin Dsmstyle
05-12-2006, 03:00 PM
Sounds like timing is off...the smoking could be the valve seals on the head, or the piston rings.
Bent valves=0 compression.
Can't you have slightly bent valves? Like just enough to drop some compression but not enough to really hurt anything besides efficiency? I don't really know how it could be the timing belt. I could attempt to put the crank plate on the other way, but it looked pretty clear that it was on correctly. However, the person before could have ran it the wrong way too.. hmm
the engine has new OEM mitsu rings std size. It was hoaned but not bored. So I guess having slightly low compression could be to blame on that.
Halon
05-13-2006, 12:13 AM
I had "slightly bent valves" and I had zero compression. Even looking at the head you could not see that the valves were damaged by looking with your eyes. They were barely even bent, but I had 0 compression in cylinders. I'd say get your valve stem seals replaced.
Thor06
05-13-2006, 03:54 PM
What makes you think the valves were bent? Did your timing skip? I think I'm with them, your timing is probably a tooth off or something and you have some bad valve seals. My car's exhaust cam was off one tooth and it pulled the same numbers in the same spots.
Pimpin Dsmstyle
05-13-2006, 05:58 PM
What makes you think the valves were bent? Did your timing skip? I think I'm with them, your timing is probably a tooth off or something and you have some bad valve seals. My car's exhaust cam was off one tooth and it pulled the same numbers in the same spots.
I repeat.. Every single timing mark is perfectly lined up. The only possible scenerio I can think of is if the crank pulley sprocket is on backwards. I clearly need some valve seals. The car runs better but not for long.
The car fires RIGHT UP and runs perfectly fine if I put in new / cleaned up spark plugs. After about 10 minutes of idling, it want's to die because the plugs get so fouled out. The odd part is that they are getting packed with carbon AND showing signs of detonation. So I'm a little bit confused. It still seems timing related. Compression is still within specifications. Ideas? We are changing to a different ECU again.
Halon
05-14-2006, 09:59 AM
So the marks are all lined up, but what about the ignition timing that you adjust using the CAS?
Thor06
05-14-2006, 01:19 PM
Another idea... is there oil on the out side of the plugs? That might be a oil filler cap thats not sealing or those seals that go between the head and the valve cover around each spark plug hole.
Pimpin Dsmstyle
05-14-2006, 04:48 PM
Another idea... is there oil on the out side of the plugs? That might be a oil filler cap thats not sealing or those seals that go between the head and the valve cover around each spark plug hole.
I have no spark in coil 2 and 3 so the reason I think I'm getting so much smoke is because of massive unburned fuel. Sometimes it seems blue so the valve seals probably do need to be replaced. My problem is somewhere between the ECU and the coil pack, the signal is lost so the coil packs 2 and 3 wont fire. I think that's the only problem left.
I need to find someone electronically capable to fix this. I'm very stupid when it comes to this. The power transistor could not be functioning properly, that is another idea.
The ignition timing hasn't been set. I could have swore that we checked all 4 holes for spark but maybe we just checked one for some stupid reason. So now that I know what the main problem is, I'll attempt to fix that and go from there. The valves shouldn't be bent but the valve seals probably do need to be replaced. All of the valve cover seals were replaced with brand new OEM seals. I can't tell if it's carbon or what but in the 2 hole, there is some liquidy black shit but I put a spark plug that was carboned up in there so I don't want to jump to conclusions until I figure out the spark issue.
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