Questions on whitch rods and pistons to use.

[snea]

Well I was thinking I would go with eagle rods, but has anyone heard of pistons made by mahle?

[niterydr]

I've used Mahle's, but I perfer Weisco's. They are very available, and are of good quality.

[snea]

What didn't you likeabout the Mahle piston. The reason I'm looking into them is because they are so light, but then again, are they so light that reliability will be compromised?

[Shotgun!]

Mahle is a very good brand. Their pistons are great, their service is not. If you found a place that has what you need on a shelf or can get it to you in a timely fashion, bang a gong, get it on.

[snea]

Hahaha, allright. Thanks Grey Wulf.

[dumb_ricer]

Yes, Mahle also makes a great piston.

They are hard anodized and then the sideskirts are teflon coated. They are also very light. They come standard with "heavy duty" wrist pins, which does make them slightly heavier, but not heavier then wiseco's. The skirt's on them is pretty much non existant, but tolerances are tighter then most pistons, so who knows if we will have issues with that.

I say if you have to ask what combo to go with, just get the tried and true 800whp method and do eagle/wiseco.

[snea]

Well, I'm not one to follow blindly. I know wiseco has great products, but like I said before, I only want to build this short block once, and I want it to be built RIGHT! I think, from what I've read and been told, I'm going to go with the Mahle pistons and Eagle con rods.

Thanks everyone.

[JET]

I would be careful with the Mahle, I don't know of anyone using them in a DSM personally. I know Shane put down nearly 700whp with them and there are several of us in MN with over 500 whp with them in. For a street car short side skirts are bad. They don't offer as much support and will scrape the cylinder walls more. For a race car that is an easy way to lighten the piston and make more power though.

Wiseco's also have a higher silicon content than a lot of pistons. This gives them a expansion rate close to the cast iron in the block. The key to that is that the hole doesn't have to be extra big when cold, so you get less piston slap on startup from a cold engine. I would definately go Wiseco. If you think saving 10 grams on a piston is significant for a street car, you need to do some more research.

[niterydr]

I would be careful with the Mahle, I don't know of anyone using them in a DSM personally. I know Shane put down nearly 700whp with them and there are several of us in MN with over 500 whp with them in. For a street car short side skirts are bad. They don't offer as much support and will scrape the cylinder walls more. For a race car that is an easy way to lighten the piston and make more power though.

Wiseco's also have a higher silicon content than a lot of pistons. This gives them a expansion rate close to the cast iron in the block. The key to that is that the hole doesn't have to be extra big when cold, so you get less piston slap on startup from a cold engine. I would definately go Wiseco. If you think saving 10 grams on a piston is significant for a street car, you need to do some more research.

*DING*

Honestly,the Weisco's are all around a better piston when you "add it all up" when concerning a street car.
1) More available
2) More support
3) Usually cheaper
4) Great piston design for a street/strip car, the weight savings are probably not worth it. I guarantee I can find something else in your setup that will rob your of more power compared to the few gram weight savings.

[Super Bleeder!!]

just to clarify, in jets first paragraph he is NOT saying shane and him use Mahle pistons; they use wisecos.

you probably got the idea from the 2nd paragraph, but i thought the first was oddly worded and that i'd just point that out :)