Illegal immigrant debate

[Talian]

Painful subject, but there is no avoiding it- people come to the US for many reasons: poverty, oppression, opportunity to prosper, freedom etc...
But this country is not set-up to support a huge temporary population (we can't even take care of our own).
If people want to be here that's fine, but they must become citizens within a set time, and work, or kick them out . That's a deal considering what my (legal) immigrant family had to deal with in '20s.

[cudvig]

Wasn't there some bull shit law trying to be passed in california to make illegal aliens be able to get drivers licenses? My dad was telling me about it awhile back. What a load of shit.

[Outlaw1]

I see three options in this particular situation.

1) Change nothing. Continue to waste billions of dollars each year to provide education, housing and hospitalization for millions of illegal immigrants from Mexico. I see this firsthand. It happens on a scale so large it would make you puke.

2) Punish illegal immigrants. Hunt them down, send them to trial and convict immigrants just as if they were killers. Treat them as felons and punish them accordingly. Again, billions of dollars wasted, and any illegal immigrant would still spend the rest of his life in one of our plush prisons where he'll surely have good meals, tv and recess versus a poverty stricken life of dirt floors, beans and a stinky dog to share it with. It's a win/win situation for an immigrant. He's still going to take that chance.

3) Utilize illegal immigrants as a workforce. Who the fuck are we kidding? These guys aren't going anywhere and they are willing to do the work nobody else wants. There is no way I'm diggin' a ditch 12-14 hours a day for $6 an hour with zero benifits. These people are HAPPY to work for next to nothing because they currently have NOTHING. If you're worried about a dumbass, no education wetback stealing your job then maybe you need to take a look at yourself do something about it. As a whole the US is full of weakass, whiny pussies. Stand up and do something about it or STFU. With some effort, programs can be established to utilize the illegal leaches currently in this country. We outsource billions/trillions of dollars of work each year overseas. At one point or another we, or our ancestors were wetbacks. Who cares where our workforce was born? We could stand to MAKE money fixing the problem instead of throwing it away just trying to bandaid it. The fence idea sounds great. How do you plan on rounding up the millions of wetbacks that are already here and getting them back over the fence?

[Kracka]

How do you plan on rounding up the millions of wetbacks that are already here and getting them back over the fence?
Shoot to injure :) Let the Bloods get 'em ;)

[Onefast99gsx]

My .02. Deport the illegal fuckers! If they can't come into this country and go through the process of becoming naturalized and legal then get rid of them. Because we have a good sized foot plant around, my town is full of illegal mexicans. A bunch of them are trouble. Many drive without licenses. When they do get in trouble, our tax payer dollars gotta pay for an interpreter. Every week in our town newspaper is at least 5 of them that got in trouble for something. Legalizing them is just a way to not deal with the problem. As the 2nd sentence said, Deport the illegal fuckers!

[joesushi]

How do you plan on rounding up the millions of wetbacks that are already here and getting them back over the fence?

Flame throwers

[Jed]

Deportation costs too much money, maybe we can find a bullet-I mean better solution. :D

I don't usually follow this sort of thing but for some reason this seemed to
hit a nerve. I think I read that they wanted to make it a felony to
be in the US illegally. Well shit, it isn't already? Good lord, what the hell.
No wonder they come over here and don't worry about the consequences.
Either try the legal way or get shot trying the illegal way. Maybe when we
are done in Iraq we can use our military to enforce some long-neglected
things right here at home.

[ABV]

This made me think of something. Let's say you came home from work one day, and somone snuck into your house. What would you do if...

A. They were sitting on your couch watching your tv and eating your potato chips?

B. They just needed a place to stay and they were willing to go out, get a job, and pay rent, and pay for thier share of food and utilities, and make everything legit?

Or

C. They just needed a place to stay and in exchange, they were willing to clean your bathroom, wash your dishes, and do your laundry?

This is hypothetical, but it's something to think about.








Here's what I would do.

A: I would tell them to get the f#k out.

B: I would tell them to get the f#k out.

C: I would tell them to get the f#k out.

I don't care who you are, or what you're willing to do, YOU snuck into MY house, and you want ME to deal with YOUR problem. The foundation of any good relationship is trust, and it's hard to trust anyone that snuck into your house.

[Kracka]

We need independant contractors...there already is that one group that watches the boarder...basically to shoot anyone of any color crossing the boader at anything but an official checkpoint. It could be a new sport, I'd go for the "hunt".

[Jana]

That's an excellent post Mark!