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TurboDomestics
03-20-2006, 12:21 AM
I need to find another car to drive and modify. And it has to be a year round car. Ive limited it to the following 3, but I just cant decide which one Id want. What does Style have to say??


Which would YOU do if you had the choice??



1) NA Miata (90-97) Most likely base model, and probably the 1.6 liter. And then buy a 1.8 liter rebuild it, and turbo eventually, if I think it would need it.

Pros:

-Light and nimble.
-RWD!
-Sexy convertable

Cons:

-A bit on the spendy side, for a college kid, and I dont want to take out a loan. $5-6k
-Convertable in the winter??

2) S13 DOHC 240sx. Rebuild the KA24DE, and then turbo and lsd. Eventually a nice S15 front end swap.

Pros:

-Good handling.
-RWD!
-Sexy car, with lots of potential.
-Relatively cheap, $2-3k

Cons:

-Hard to find a nice one with a manual tranny.
-Not as easy to get horsepower out of as the DSM, and not as light and nimble as the miata.

3) 1g AWD DSM. Ive tried before, and failed before. I have a shell, but it might be sold. I just blew a motor up, and im still not excatly sure what happened or why.

Pros:

-Easy HP.
-AWD!!

Cons:

-DSM reliability.
-Not that good loooking, but will do.

So what would you do?

Kracka
03-20-2006, 12:31 AM
The Miata will probably be the most reliable choice for you, they are tough little cars and very fun. Nothing wrong with having a convertible in the winter, just make sure you are comfortable enough inside it for everyday use and can put up with the more than normal road noise. Another reason I recomend not a DSM is because you already did that and its fun to try new things.

TurboDomestics
03-20-2006, 12:35 AM
The Miata will probably be the most reliable choice for you, they are tough little cars and very fun. Nothing wrong with having a convertible in the winter, just make sure you are comfortable enough inside it for everyday use and can put up with the more than normal road noise.


Did you drive your s2k all winter?

Im a little guy, so I dont think fitment will be an issue. At least I hope not. ;)

thanks for the reply!

Kracka
03-20-2006, 12:48 AM
I store my S2k for the winters only because I don't want it getting all salty, but I know many people across the midwest and Canada that do daily-drive theirs year-round. Winter is no different than summer except you need different tires and the top can't go down. Snow/ice/cold doesn't hurt the top any, they are designed for the elements just like any other production car; just take care while scraping ice from the rear window as to not knick the top (not a concern in the older Miatas with the plastic rear window anyways).

Emcee gsxtc
03-20-2006, 02:42 AM
Meh, your on a dsm board - what should you expect the answer to be? Year round car? in MN? snow? rwd or rwd or AWD? Go Dsm, pick one of our local shops to help you, so you dont blow things up. Then treat it like a Porsche not an old pickup. That means constant maintenance, no zip ties, no JB weld nor mechanics wire. Don't drive it through fields, ditches, or icy parking lots with curbs. BONUS! You already have parts/ cars laying around so there is less initial investment. Just decide on the setup you want with help from the local shop of your choice. Get the required parts, along with all the usual wear parts replaced: headgasket, timing belt, waterpump, and all the other gaskets that get replace with it.


Congratulations! For equal or less than the price of the new car you have a reliable ~300+hp DSM that can cater to your desires all year long.

JiggahMan
03-20-2006, 03:10 AM
I say get a DSM but shoot for 400 whp. :D

Tauni
03-20-2006, 03:13 AM
get a 240. ohhhh the snow banks you'll meet!

LingLing
03-20-2006, 07:14 AM
you have to weigh in the factor of aftermarket. since none of the above cars are near 300+whp.


KA24DE:



Bore × Stroke: 89.0 × 96.0 mm
Max power: 155 hp (115 kW) @ 5600 rpm
Max torque: 160 ft·lbf (217 Nm) @ 4400 rpm
Valve Configuration: DOHC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOHC), 16 valves
Compression ratio: 9.2:1
Miata:

The original Miata came with a 1.6 L double overhead cam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_overhead_cam) inline four-cylinder engine, producing 90 kW (120 bhp) and 100 lbft of torque. The engine employs an L-Jetronic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jetronic) fuel injection system and a camshaft angle sensor (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Camshaft_angle_sensor&action=edit) instead of a distributor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributor).


DSM (1g AWD):

4G63T, Turbocharged 16Valve DOHC, Estimated HP: 195


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I'm not sure how the aftermarket scene is for the Miata or the KA24DE. BUT I can imagine that there isn't a whole lot for that engine. I know there's qute a bit more for the SR20DET, but the KA24DE motor is almost obsolete, as the SR20DET is a much stronger and more reliable platform
. If there is, it's probably expensive, like Supra, 350Z, and AE86 parts. Just my .02.... Good luck on your decision though!

AJ
03-20-2006, 07:17 AM
What does MNSC have to say??


Go ask them and find out.

s1ngletracker
03-20-2006, 08:10 AM
well so far, it sounds like you've failed with DSMs. If you're like me, you wont settle for them getting the best of you, and try again :) If you're not like me, say screw it, and get something else. I vote for neither miata nor 240. Miata = butt ugly and goofy looking. 240 = ehhh, what you wanna be a drift superstar? My vote is DSM.