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SlowWhite
01-16-2006, 05:01 PM
I"m hoping that's the case, they are having another Midnight madness again at Moroso this Friday. 6-2am. Temps in the evenings have been in the low 40's high 30's(during the day it's been in the low 70's) lately so hopefully it'll be a nice cool night. (and I'm going to compete in the brackets that way I get in line with the full out drag/rail cars so the track will hopefully be extra sticky.

Shane@DBPerformance
01-16-2006, 05:20 PM
Do you have a wideband on it? If it isn't "seeing" anymore airflow at 30psi than it is at 23psi, then it isn't going to add fuel for all that extra boost.

SlowWhite
01-16-2006, 05:55 PM
I'll review the logs but I don't think it ever got above 55lbs/min. Typically at 25psi I normally see 53lbs.min And all day that is about what I was seeing, But I rarely got to do a pull over 6200rpms it would start to buck and sputter, so I always backed off the gas. Accouple times I got to about 7000rpms but it was getting pretty bad. I'll have the downpipe back together shortly and then I'll take it back out to see if anything changed.

Honestly I'm really leaning towards the downpipe being my problem (at least at this point) I was running 25psi on pump gas before with no problems at 53lbs/min. Even when I started running race gas at the same PSI I wasn't having this problem. This was my first time taking the car out since I reinstalled my turbo/exhaust manifold with new gaskets. Obviously did not get the clamp on 100%

TheBlizzard
01-16-2006, 06:09 PM
How is the downpipe going to cause bucking and sputtering at that high of RPM? Sounds to me like you have other issues Brian, like running lean.

EclipseGST
01-16-2006, 11:38 PM
Well going by him saying he lost a coupler, I think he might be talking about the lower intercooler pipe? Just a thought, I dont know.

TheBlizzard
01-17-2006, 07:03 AM
I thought he meant his V band clamp came loose on his downpipe.

SlowWhite
01-17-2006, 11:40 AM
It was the V-clamp to the downpipe. My 02 sensor is connected to the downpipe not the o2 housing. But then again for the most part the downpipe was connected so it still should have been running fine.

I don't see why things all of a sudden changed, Last time at the track I was running 116oct still running 25-26psi. (cause I thought the EGT's where supposed to go down with race gas) Anyrate The car was running totally fine. I was running 12.0-12.1@116.9mph but pulling 1.9-2.0 60's. Anyrate On the last run I'd upped the boost to 28psi and on that run my turbo-exhaust manifold bolts came loose and I blew the gasket. (was running fine for 1and2 gear, went out in 3rd)

Since then I unbolted the turbo and took off the exhaust manifold that way I could install the 4th bolt for the turbo-exhaust manifold. (prior I was only running 3 bolts which I'm pretty sure is why the other bolts kept coming loose)

Anyrate After that I installed the 18.5lb radiator cap, and the sealed Coolant overflow, blew the alternator fuse, and had to replace my battery.

That's all I changed. I'll take the car out to Bee-Line Hwy hopefully tonight to do some tuning. And we'll see if the downpipe changed anything. I'm hoping that the downpipe being off slightly was causing the 02 sensor to mis-read the air.

But like I said I've turned the boost back down to 25psi which has been trouble free since I installed the motor, and I'll re-load my settings from when I ran my 11.7 and start from there. (Before I go though I'll do a boost leak test to see if my coupler is leaking (the one from the turbo to the FMIC has been giving me problems for sometime so that might be apart of it)

TheBlizzard
01-17-2006, 11:56 AM
I forgot you O2 sensor was in your downpipe and not the O2 housing. I guess it could have been the problem, but unless it was totally just hanging there and not connected at all it should have been giving a reading even if it was leaking. I guess see how it acts tonight and go from there.

SlowWhite
01-17-2006, 02:56 PM
I did a boost leak test and nothing, except the usual place (SMI came with a small pin sized hole in one of the welds on the #1 runner)

Anyrate It's supposed to rain so we'll see what happens. Worste case senario I go back to pump gas with out ever getting to do a run on Race gas and higher PSI.

I'll be racing on Friday assuming the sputtering is gone. I also have to check the spark plugs. They are brand new with less then 25 miles on them but still.

tim
01-17-2006, 03:27 PM
I forgot you O2 sensor was in your downpipe and not the O2 housing. I guess it could have been the problem, but unless it was totally just hanging there and not connected at all it should have been giving a reading even if it was leaking. I guess see how it acts tonight and go from there.
Even a slight leak before the O2 sensor would cause a false reading. All that air flowing by would be sucking more in from the outside. I had a similar problem on a completely different vehicle where the there was a leak before the O2 sensor and it caused some very poor driveability. I am not saying that is is for sure the problem but even the slightest exhaust leak before the O2 sensor can and probably will cause problems.